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Granada talks about border demarcation without demanding the withdrawal of Azerbaijani troops from Armenia. Gantaharyan

Radar Armenia's interlocutor is international expert Shahan Gantaharyan.

- How will you interpret the meeting held in Granada and the document signed?

- The announcement from the Granada meeting has mixed messages. First, they need to clarify what borders they want to implement. They refer to the maps of the USSR, where the enclaves' fate is unclear because no specific map is indicated. In this regard, the statement of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Azerbaijan is very worrying. Baku announced that it did not occupy any territory of Armenia. This implies that when Armenian territories were invaded, they were considered Azerbaijani. There is talk of lifting the blockade in the directions of both Azerbaijan and Turkey. Or, it is equally talked about the persons kept on both sides or the missing persons.

The statement attempts to maintain the rules of equidistance to continue the role of mediator. There is an agreement to meet in a tripartite format.

- Aliyev did not participate in that meeting. What do you think is the real purpose? They reason that there are other hidden issues.

- There are two dimensions here—first, the general meeting of the European political community, and second, the Granada Quadrilateral. In the case of the first, Aliyev did not expect a good reception, and the call of the European Parliament to the EU was addressed and talks about the proposal to apply sanctions against Azerbaijan. And in the second, there is a complaint, especially to Paris, which, according to Baku, adopts biased positions. Baku is sending an impulse to Moscow as well.

- In that case, to what extent is the document signed in Granada also applicable to Azerbaijan if the latter's signature is unavailable?

- This is a statement and does not have any applicable law. Baku stated that it does not even respect the documents it signed.

- By the way, according to European officials, Baku has assured that it is not going to use military operations against Armenia. Is it believable or not?

- The military-political behavior of Baku suggests something else. Baku can negotiate or sign a ceasefire with one hand and shoot with the other, justifying it by the fact that the Armenian side is the first to attack.

- Baku says it does not give up contact with Armenia; a tripartite meeting was also announced in Brussels. How will you interpret this?

- Your observation is correct. If the Granada statement did not consider the Azerbaijan factor and did not implement the rule of equal distance, then Baku would not have gone to Brussels.

- In this context, I would like to refer to the statements made by Vladimir Putin at the "Valdai" club about Nagorno-Karabakh and Armenian-Azerbaijani relations. What does Putin mean by this?

- Putin, on the one hand, put the responsibility on the shoulders of the Armenian side; on the other hand, he said that Yerevan did not hand over Artsakh on purpose. After confiscating Artsakh, Putin is trying to send messages, hoping Baku will have a humanitarian attitude. But the main message is the same. The resolution of the Artsakh conflict was achieved in this way because the Armenian side did not accept the proposals of the Russian Federation; the people of Artsakh were displaced because Yerevan announced that Artsakh would be accepted as part of Azerbaijan. Related to all of these is the non-constructive role of the collective West, which led to today's situation. These points can be seen in what Putin said.

- The issue of the corridor is on the agenda. What developments can we expect in this regard?

- It is noticeable that the idea of the corridor has changed in the official statements of the Turkish-Azerbaijani alliance. Erdogan says that the corridor can pass through Iran if the Armenian side does not agree. Baku declares that Yerevan misunderstood the corridor idea, adding that Azerbaijan has no intention of taking a road from the sovereign territory of Armenia. The Iranian factor is decisive here, which has given rise to the Turkish-Azerbaijani vocabulary and speech change. All this does not mean that the Turkish-Azerbaijani tandem has given up on the idea of the Zanezuri Corridor.

Hayk Magoyan